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Anonymous No. 16072269

How do we save /sci/ from the schizoids? Every fucking thread we get lunatics from /x/ and /pol/ ranting about this or that offtopic lunacy. Even the humor thread is 99% schizophrenia.

Anonymous No. 16072289

>>16072269
Make a discord/reddit/blog and gatekeep. Oh wait that just turns into circlejerks. Meet in real life. Oh wait no one here has social skills. Have the mods and jannies do thier job. Oh wait they do it for free. Sorry OP, you lost to the schizos. Looks like the future is mental illness ruling.

Anonymous No. 16072293

>>16072289
>mental illness ruling.
always has been

Anonymous No. 16072296

>>16072289
>no one here has social skills
um we can invent our own! :P

Anonymous No. 16072308

>even the humor thread
That's like one of the first pol spam threads, the fact that you didn't know that kinda paints you as a schizo.

Anonymous No. 16072310

>>16072308
I haven't used /sci/ much in the past 5 years. I just remember actual retarded /sci/ memes from a while ago.

Anonymous No. 16072311

>>16072269
It comes with the territory of an anonymous imageboard, where you have every little nog and redneck LARPing as some academic, doctor, insider, whatever (I mean actually calling themselves those things but barely being able to string a sentence together). It's honestly made me revise my anti-credentialism views. I don't want libs with PhDs in gender studies deciding Internet misinformation policy, but this is too far in the opposite direction.

Cult of Passion No. 16072337

OP... YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN LIQUIFIED BY THIS POST >>16071777

NO NEED TO HIDE

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Anonymous No. 16072343

>>16072337

Anonymous No. 16072363

>>16072311
>I don't want libs with PhDs in gender studies deciding Internet misinformation policy,
>but
Go back to plebbit retard. There's an entire fucking internet of censored discussion where the pol/x shizos will never bother you because it is gatekept.

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Anonymous No. 16072372

>>16072269
careful, you might disrupt this delicate ecosystem with your abject normalcy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljj32-Tg2n8

Anonymous No. 16072396

>>16072363
>shizos
Schizos.

Anonymous No. 16072439

>>16072269
>Make quality /sci/ threads.
>Don't engage with schizo posters
>Hide schizo threads
It really is that simple.

Anonymous No. 16072503

>>16072269
>How do we save /sci/ from the schizoids?
Jannies doing their jobs.
Which would require GrapeApe get shitcanned because he's a /pol/tard and science is rather inconvenient to his worldview, so he shitcans jannies who do their jobs.

tl;dr won't be fixed until the /pol/tards in charge get the boot.
>>16072439
>ignore the problem
you really are retarded

Anonymous No. 16072539

>>16072439
literally this
Every few hours a singularly retarded thread gets made.
>>16072269
>16072337
These kinds of posters should immediately be banned. The fact that I trolled him a little and he broke and shit posted an entire thread in fact multiple threads to death and no one does anything is disheartening. I'll take the 3 day ban for playing along with the retard but unless you moderate the retards you're going to be overrun by them. Also simply stop engaging them. Retards are known to run out of patience quickly.

Anonymous No. 16072547

>>16072269
Go back in time like 2 decades and prevent about 90% of the people who got internet access from ever being able to post.

El Arcón No. 16072550

>>16072372
Jed.

Cult of Passion No. 16072552

>>16072269
>ranting about this or that offtopic lunacy
Post-Doc and beyond most professors*
>schizophrenia
Youre not a Psychologist, youre using your bitch boy emotions as "sCiEnTiFiC vAlIdAtIoN".

Dont like it? DISPROVE IT.
I said PROVE....NOT TELL ME YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS.

>scale_of_the_universe.jpg
You a Comsologist? What, uh [snacks on chips], whatchya working on at school, son? Need help? I can take a look at for ya...

>How do we save /sci/
FROM A BUNCH OF LYING ANTI-SCIENTIFIC MENTALLY ILL SCUMBAGS?!?!

Every Post, EVERY TIME, lies lies lies lies....even you cant tell the truth because youre passing your BITCH EGO feelings as LOGIC OR INTELLIGENCE OR TRUTH.

Youre not a scientist...youre LARPing on 4Chan and REEEing when shut the fuck down when caught LYING ABOUT SCIENCE ON A SCIENCE BOARD. Literally like half of you are tourists and shouldnt be here, just SHITTING UP THE BOARD.

DO SCIENCE OR LEAVE, NOW.

>>16072439
But youre not a scientist, are you? Technician? Math Technician? Physics Technician?

What I do is you wont tell shit because I WILL STOMP, HUH?

ALL THIS "DONT ENGAGE" IS TO SAVE FACE FROM YOUR OWN EMBARRASSMENT.
[spits]

COWARDS.

>>16072539
>These kinds of posters should immediately be banned.
Youre an idiot, you dont shit about anything and I can prove.

>Retards are known to run out of patience quickly.
Youre a new fag....whats youre field of research, bud?

Youre so smart? Im so dumb?

LET PROVE IT.

>I trolled him
Ah, so an unserious person LARPing a character known as "smart".

YOURE NOT A DOCTOR OF ANY KIND, YOU ACT LIKE TEEENAGE.

Cult of Passion No. 16072555

>>1607255
>NO RESPONSE
I HAVE WON...

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Cult of Passion No. 16072560

>>16072555
Then where is your glory?

Cult of Passion No. 16072562

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA....

Anonymous No. 16072565

>>16072289
The tragedy of the commons.

Cult of Passion No. 16072568

>>16072308
>/pol/
HHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous No. 16072577

>>16072552
Did the army do this to you? Genuinely feel bad, having to be institutionalized at age 27

Anonymous No. 16072585

>>16072269
Search for
>Mining the Chains
and realize it's way too late. Impossible at this point. Especially since all the old flags who actually cared about this place and it's unique charm left.

Cult of Passion No. 16072632

>>16072577
>Did the army do this to you?
No, realizing that the human population surrounded me mentally retarded.

Thats not name calling....thats cognitive assement of human species, its basically retarded.

>>16071898
>bro make proper sentences
ILLITERATE.
>>16071926
>This has no point if the implication isn't that they're mentally ill.
DELUSION OF GRADURE, he 'forgot' he isnt a Doctor while simultaneously being mystified by the entire field....which is it?
>>16071939
>showed off
SOLIPSISTIC, inability to not think from a feminist "power-dynamic" mindframe, parasitic.
>>16071964
>At most I shouldn't have said "mental illness"
DELUSION OF GRANDURE, got another "forgot he wasnt a doctor and didnt go to medical school"......HE FORGOT.

These people lie out their ass constantly, shitting up the entire board with you never ending "TsssNuh Uh."'s

Scientific Citation Most Cited; "TssNuh Uh."

Bravo /sci/.

Anonymous No. 16072636

>>16072565
>>16072585
Truth is this place could still just as easily work. It worked in the past. Take on a few more active jannies and ban tards and prevent bot posting using some fancy algos. The tragedy of the commons doesn't exist so easily. If the resource is managed it will work. Basically if jannies did their jobs. And if they hired more jannies. Hell I'd be one. I'd ban the namefag and clean up the boards. Probably delete like 10+ threads and 3 day ban any namefag acting like a tard. Would clean the board right up. Actually all they need to do is make a few more mods and jannies and it'd be easily solved. You can't overgraze a managed common because you'll be punished.

🗑️ Cult of Passion No. 16072646

>>16072636
Wrong. 100%.
This;
>Take on a few more active jannies and ban tards
...is exactly how we got here. Good job, you made reddit.

All the jannies dont care about "scientific facts", theyre illiterate and use these retard's filings; >>16072632 to file bans against people who call out liars and LARPers for break every single one of those board rules...disingenuous scientific debate KILLS THIS BOARD.

You surrendered upon the start of war...

Cult of Passion No. 16072678

>>16072646
PATHETIC....

Cult of Passion No. 16072694

>>16072678
To hand veto power to a NEET popitical activist group thats scientifically illiterate?

Huzzah, he made a WHO and gave it judicial powers. Fuckin' smart.

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Anonymous No. 16072699

>>16072269
Honestly, it's with generals. There are already a few here that do ok simply because schizophrenic retards like >>16072337 simply don't know enough about any specific topic and can't wedge their inane tantrums into conversation that is not generally accessable to anyone or flat out schizo bait. Also, if you have a paleobiology general for example then you can report for off topic discussion once Prof. Crackpipe JfC starts going off about how God speaks to him through the vibrations caused by licking windows.

Anonymous No. 16072708

>>16072636
This, jesus. Like 90% of the clutter here is caused by a handful of basket cases that are allowed to run buck wild. That and the fact that the majority of the threads are phone screenshots of garbo buzzfeed articles with subjects like "uhhh I thought coffee was supposed to be good for you???? so called experts are wrong again???????????"

Cult of Passion No. 16072712

>>16072699
>simply don't know enough about any
THEY LITERALLY CANNOT STOP LYING.

HIS FEEBLE EGO FILLS HIS IGNORANCE WITH EXACTLY THE NINJA MOVES NEED TO FIST FIST A BEAR.

Ya fudgin' the numbers to bash the fash?

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Anonymous No. 16072721

>>16072712
Case in point.

Cult of Passion No. 16072732

>>16072712
>FIST FIGHT* A BEAR.
Come on you idiots....

>that are allowed to run buck wild
The problem is you.

You dont realize how duckinf asleep you are. Youre LITERALLY SURROUNDED by schizophrenics posting under anonymous. You cant tell the difference between schizobabble and wikipedia artcles.

(REMEMBER.....YOURE NOT A DOCTOR, STOP FORGETTING THAT, YOURE NOT PERFORMING COGNITIVE TESTS ON 4CHAN, I DO.)

Hence its clear where youre blind and what your moral is.

COWARDICE.

You two were "handed freedom" and your FIRST thought was to hand it to someone else...and unelected shadowing backroom group with political ties...

Something something "little security for freedom..."...or whateva, You's FUCKIN SUPA SMAAHT.

Cult of Passion No. 16072740

>>16072721
>laughing


You need a father figure, dude.....bad. Youre gunna raise some emotionally weak and probably dangerous kids.

Anonymous No. 16072743

>>16072732
>LITERALLY SURROUNDED by schizophrenics
yeah no shit bozo
shouldn't you be drilling into the side of your head with a DeWalt so the Jews can't use microwaves to build up pressure in your brain or something

Anonymous No. 16072745

>>16072740
Actually 0 people like your posts. But since you're an antisocial retard you're too dim to get that.

Cult of Passion No. 16072751

>>16072721
>Ya fudgin' the numbers to bash the fash?
Oh, and exactly what I was talking about.

Debating science with would be meaningless, if he can cheat he will, he isnt some "noble intelligencia", he literally thinks like a woman and thinks men do too...

FATHERLESSNESS CRETAED YOU.

Cult of Passion No. 16072757

>>16072745
>like
HE CANNOT STOP.

YOUR SCIENCE IS BASED EMOTIONS, YOURE NOT SCIENTIST, YOURE A WOMAN.

Anonymous No. 16072759

>>16072751
>FATHERLESSNESS CRETAED YOU.
OH SHIT I AM THE NEW MESSIAH

Anonymous No. 16072761

>>16072269
If you really care that much, you can leave the site. Retards like you are the kind of fags who complain but do nothing. Leave the site, make your own, find another, it really doesn’t matter. No one is keep you here.

Cult of Passion No. 16072763

Fucking hell, Im out, any posts after this was one of you retards

Even in your meta thread you people do the same shit.

STOP LIVING LIES....
t.Embarrassed Father

Anonymous No. 16072765

>>16072763
Bro stay on your containment board or do your dishes or something, fucking spaz

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Anonymous No. 16072768

>>16072757
>science is when you act like a retard and the more retarded you are the more scientific it is

Anonymous No. 16072769

>>16072708
Yeah. All screenshot threads. All news threads. All twitter threads. In fact any OP that doesn't begin with either a well thought out idea or a general or with atleast a Nature article as source and an actual question should immediately be hit with a ban.
case in point
>>16072703
>>16072656
>>16071619
>>16072151 (this one literally just deserves only to be a post in a /sci/ humor thread but instead it's made
an entire thread)
>>16072598
Seriously every half hour a garbage thread like the ones above is made
It's kind of unbelievable and makes my /pol/ brain think it's coordinated. What would be the actual use of consistently posting utter garbage threads with just no substance but a basedjack and bait text on a fucking science board.

Anonymous No. 16072776

>>16072636
Again search
>Mining the Chans
It's eye-opening. This is a concerted separatist action, not "just" age-induced degeneracy.

Anonymous No. 16072782

>>16072712
Tooker is more interesting than (you).

Anonymous No. 16072786

>>16072776
I realise that
I'm not sure but I think that the schizo is just a bot with a 4chan pass or an indian shill being crazy.
But the truth is it could be fixed extremely easily. I'll look up what you mentioned but I'm fairly sure I've seen most of the plot on /pol/ already. In the end, /pol/ was right again.

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Anonymous No. 16072827

>>16072269
Here is what you need to do:
1. sage low quality threads
2. report low quality posts
3. use 4chanx (or similar) with word filters
4. contribute
5. whine about >>>/pol/ and >>>/x/ everywhere (I really mean this though)

>>16072372
No, that was me, sorry again.
I don't understand Realfake Newssource. Do you have a listener's guide?

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Anonymous No. 16072845

>>16072269
Actually this board is going to die the tourism death if we continue with as high of a quality as we currently have. We need to lower our standards.

Anonymous No. 16072864

>>16072845
>This Investigative Fund
No /pol/ is right on most things but you're a poisoned well shill. The other points you made are correct. sage, hide, report, filter. But without active jannies it'll never work.

Anonymous No. 16072888

>>16072827
This is not wrong, but I don't have any hope left, bro.

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Anonymous No. 16072913

>>16072827
1. gb2 reddit

Anonymous No. 16072961

>>16072776
Yeah I could absolutely believe that. For example, ever notice how threads with culture war topics will be bumped with utterly insubstantive posts signaling agreement with one of a few talking points for weeks on end? Here's a particularly egregious example from a while ago:
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/15826506

/sci/ is slow enough that this could be accomplished by a single person (and, in fact, I'm fairly certain it is), but the fact that it has been consistently happening for literal years now indicates that they are at least being paid.

>>16072636
Thing is, you'd need mods that don't want the academic boards to be watered down with culture war spam for this to work, which we don't have.

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Anonymous No. 16072974

>>16072961
climate hysteria is fake, gay, and not science

Anonymous No. 16073091

>>16072974
>ben garrison
go back

Anonymous No. 16073094

>>16072269
when academia will stop lying about COVID, for starters, until then science is compeletely discredited until proven otherwise, the scientist myth has collapsed because of your own greed

Anonymous No. 16073121

>>16073094
why does academia lie? who asks it to? who uses what academia says? follow the interest anon, don't stop at "science".
would you say no if you'd be pressured like crazy to do or say shit which benefits the corporate or politician? would you make a stand on your principles and be fired and unemployable or take the money and say what is needed?
who's really to blame, anon?

Cult of Passion No. 16073132

>>16073094
>when academia will stop lying
When you "Anons" start piling on the lying shitbags amongst you. I cant point it out in louder capitals letters....

(You) are the problem, you ignore lies in your faces then call facts from Ivy League professors as "schizo-babble".....

Youre not scientists until you clean your fucking beakers and lab, your house is garbage...thats why I zero respect for you abject failures (remember....you ignore their lies and Push your own...ANTI-SCIENCE.)

SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS, NOT THERAPY FOR STUDENT.

Anonymous No. 16073157

>>16072769
>It's kind of unbelievable and makes my /pol/ brain think it's coordinated. What would be the actual use of consistently posting utter garbage threads with just no substance but a basedjack and bait text on a fucking science board.
Plenty, primarily community disintegration. You don't need to do anything fancy you just need to keep pouring shit into the system and eventually only the other largely automated glowies and one or two genuine nutcases are left.

I'm pretty sure the government has slowly but surely learned its lesson about dealing with places it doesn't like. You really don't need to "van" anybody and risk political fallout or anything, you just need to make everywhere inhospitable by cranking the noise part of the signal:noise ratio to max. It acts as a kind of warding inoculation such that the level of "crazy" becomes so absurd even any potential terrorists or any general "attitudes you want to discourage" are disgusted by it and leave. Anyone knew who might be drawn in and radicalized is immediately turned off because the damage by association is quite successful and so quite useful. You don't even need to devote many resources to the task, even automated ones, because eventually the most extreme crazies will carry the effort on their own along with trolls and people who think they're being clever while being useful idiots.

It has nothing to do with "/pol/ brain". It's just the sad state of affairs. You can disintegrate just about any community in this way by taking its current culture and echo-chambering more brain dead radicalism even the radicals think is stupid, increase the pointless bickering, etc. Worked great shutting down Occupy and similar movements, works perfectly online, and the best part is it's nearly free to do especially when useful idiots get on board to add to the antagonism.

All I'm saying is it isn't coincidence that such community disintegration benefits the government status quo.

Anonymous No. 16073601

>>16072269
>Even the humor thread
Most of the time the "humor thread" is only posted in by the same guy who's been spamming /sci/ nonstop since the early 2010s

The mods have completely abandoned here so there's nothing stopping angry mathlets and social media transplants from filling the entire catalog with garbage

Anonymous No. 16073611

>>16072269
So are you just another retard who is too retarded to know the difference between a schizoid and a schizo?

Cult of Passion No. 16073614

>>16073611
....THIS

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16073845

>>16072845
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16076712

>>16072961
Also, bumpfag will insistently attempt to derail a thread into one of his preferred topics if the thread doesn't pertain to one of them already.
See >>16072974 >>16073094

Anonymous No. 16077900

>>16072269
Sorry people are concerned that our universe is stupendously large and want to know more about it faggot? Earth is boring and full of boring fags like you.

Anonymous No. 16078944

God the absolute state of this board. How the hell is a thread like >>16066141 that is literally completely off topic for this board still up after 5 days?

Anonymous No. 16078951

>>16073132
>call facts from Ivy League professors as "schizo-babble".....
You do the same shit with your antivax nonsense.

Anonymous No. 16078961

>>16072269
I wasn't selected as your /sci/ janny last round because the mods are extreme "libertarian and free speech advocates" (their words).
They didn't like that in my application I said I would come down like a ton of bricks on these schizo posters. Muh rights or something like that.

Anonymous No. 16078966

>>16078961
Schizos dont have free speech

Anonymous No. 16078968

>>16078961
/pol/tard in charge basically guaranteed that. Unsurprisingly the only people who will be jannies effectively won't do their jobs because science is inconvenient for /pol/tards.

Anonymous No. 16078970

There should just be a covid general or maybe even covid board like on komica.

Anonymous No. 16078975

>>16078961
I tried applying to janny /pol/ with the same philosophy of killing off the incessant /x/ posting. Get it back to politics, not flat earth, nukes fake, space fake bullshit polluting the catalog and threads.

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Anonymous No. 16078976

>>16078961
>extreme "libertarian and free speech advocates" (their words)
Based jannies.

Anonymous No. 16079046

>>16078976
>Based jannies.
They're doing a fantastic job illustrating the worthlessness of lolbertarian philosophy that's for sure.

Seriously, being so head up your ass you don't even enforce the basic rules and keep things on topic? How fucking retarded are these people?

The best part is they'll run the whole site into the absolute ground even to the point it goes defunct all while probably being convinced they're "right" damn the consequences.

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Anonymous No. 16079091

>>16079046
>they'll run the whole site into the absolute ground
This is 4chan.
This is not Reddit, this is not Twitter, this is not Instagram. This is 4chan.
What do you think this site is infamous for on the internet all these years. Why do you think people come here for.
I'll tell you what they are not here for. Fucking censorship.
If you snowflake autists can't handle getting your shit pushed in now and then by /x/ schizos, /lit/ philosofags, and /pol/tards, then maybe you should fuck off back to physicsforums.com or whatever safespace you nerds normally congregates.
Mods are absolutely fucking based for their current stance. Good to see the oldguard of 4chan still stand strong on this board.

Anonymous No. 16079095

>>16079091
>Censorship means off top threads can run rampant
You're the reason online communities always degenerate into pointless shit flinging and are ultimately abandoned.

Anonymous No. 16079098

Seconding >>16079095
You >>16079091 are fucking retarded

Anonymous No. 16079105

>>16079095
>4chan
>shit flinging since 2003
>if you don't start censoring shit flinging now the site will get abandoned!
Like clockwork.
How about you snowflake faggots be first and lead by example.
Door is that way, bye.

Anonymous No. 16079111

>>16079091
Based

Anonymous No. 16079130

>>16072269
Prevent phoneposting
Upgrade all normal bans from IP bans to subnet bans
Allow mods to publicly ban retards for the lulz

4chan fixed, you're welcome.

Anonymous No. 16079144

>>16079105
/sci/ has mostly been abandoned. About a decade ago there were a fair number of decent posts. You had the daily Putnam thread, physics generals, a couple of trip fags that were either pursuing PhDs or masters in hep-th. There were shitty threads sure (qualia and major politics threads stand out in my mind), but the ratio of garbage to decent was certainly better than it is today.

This week has been my first week back on /sci/ since I finished my M.Sc (about 5 years ago), and just look at this board today. We have like 6/7 threads just on fucking COVID and vaccines. Another half dozen on muh global warming. This place is a trash fire, I currently have 33 threads either filtered or hidden, it's worse than /g/ and /g/ nowadays is just rampant consumerism and calling each other tranny.

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Anonymous No. 16079153

>>16079144
Bye.

Anonymous No. 16079245

>>16079144
Only 33? It's rare I have anything but ~6 threads hidden and that's including ones where I fuck with the anti-science shills. If I exclude those I maybe have only 3 threads left with the odd 4th that magically ends up not shit.
>>16079153
You and your ilk being banned would improve every website dramatically. Fuck banned off 4chan, banned off the internet permanently.

Anonymous No. 16079250

>>16079144
Remember, you're here forever.

Anonymous No. 16079321

>>16079130
>Prevent phoneposting
Banning phones from posting would by itself improve the quality of the internet by at least 700%

Anonymous No. 16079322

>>16072269
You don't know what schizoid is.

Anonymous No. 16079323

>>16079322
nor do you

Anonymous No. 16079645

>>16078968
>>16078975
>>16079046
>>16079091
There is a huge incentive to not ban bots
Bot users buy 4chan passes to avoid the captcha. That's the main reason but they won't admit that.
On top of that I'm fairly sure that /pol/ moderation was taken over by NSA agents and they've been allowing bots to poison the board.
It isn't 'schizos' making the threads. Yeah a few. But a lot of these posters are bots.
Consider these
>>16072974
>>16073094
What use do these posts have? What use?
It's designed to make the board less interesting.
>>16072776
This is the truth. Groups, governments have been incentivised to instead of getting rid of free speech to push it to 100% and push crazy nonsense.
No one on /pol/ believes in flat earth. It's pushed to discredit the board. And as users leave even less organic posts are made, basically ruining the board permanently.
Even small boards are suffering deeply from this.
It's sad.
Basically
>>16073157
all of this
>>16079105
see how this poster reacts. I don't even believe it's an actual person. It has no reasoning ability at all. It pretends shit flinging on a small scale like shitposting is the same as making 20 threads that are garbage. it's a well poisoning bot.
>>16078831
>>16074265
Just fake threads designed to make the board less interesting

What should happen is an AI should be trained to recognise good threads vs bait threads. Training a GAN to filter out all fake posts.

Mods won't do it because they're compromised. It could be extremely easy yet they refuse to do it. Similarly to why reddit is overrun with bots pushing tons of political angles designed to keep users engaged with bad and fake content.

The Internet could've been a place full of honest discussion but that will never be allowed by our governments.

Anonymous No. 16079678

>>16079645
>Bot users buy 4chan passes to avoid the captcha. That's the main reason but they won't admit that.
The funny thing is there's a similar perverse incentive in various online games, such as "Escape from Tarkov". Only there's a quasi-incentive to ban bots, but to only do so ineffectually so the bot accounts have to keep repurchasing the game licenses. So in effect you only police enough to filter bad actors to buy subscriptions, and only police that enough to reap "just enough" repeat purchases from bad actors without making them give up.

Add perverse incentives to how easy community disintegration is and the internet of "today" is a botfarmed glowie-destroyed mess. Made all the worse by lolbertarian minded useful idiots.

Make no mistake, that's exactly what they are. Useful fucking idiots. Same for anyone throwing in adding to the discord even if it's to attempt to make things bad enough for jannies to do their jobs. Newsflash: They won't no matter how bad it gets until the website goes belly up. The only hope for genuine discourse anymore will be walled gardens and the worse the botting gets the harsher the walls will have to be. Since the retarded jannies are complicit in it there's no hope here.

Anonymous No. 16079695

>>16079645
>And as users leave even less organic posts are made, basically ruining the board permanently.
This is legitimately what's happening/happened to /sci/

Anonymous No. 16079711

>>16079695
Progressively happening to everything. Twitter, Reddit, everywhere. At this point your best bet is to try getting into decentralized walled gardens especially invite only ones. The open net is fucking trash now and that's on purpose.

Anonymous No. 16079795

>>16079678
I just realised that Runescape already showed us the truth. Majority of the paid member accounts are bots. They are created to bot to farm gold and sell it through online markets. This started small but now entire countries are in on it and are farming gold to sell online. To whom I genuinely do not even know but in the end it doesn't matter. As the bots took over most people just stopped playing because the game just kind of sucks. In the end the company is being kept afloat by a slowly dwindling user base which increasingly cheats by buying botted gold and a larger share of bots. Genuinely weird how I could've seen the end of the Internet coming from a decade ago if I had paid more attention. The company is not incapable of banning bots. It's unwilling because it recognises the cash flow from the bots is significant. More significant than trying to increase their user base which is harder to do than just managing inflation properly by carefully banning just enough bots to ensure prices don't become too high. If they accurately keep track of the bots and real users and their wealth they can actually perfectly calculate how to handle inflation to maximise their own profits. This is probably what all social media are doing now behind the scenes. I'm deeply saddened by this realization.

Anonymous No. 16079847

>>16079795
Welcome to the club fren. Shit sucks. This is how the internet will be going forward in a perpetual churn of enshittification because inevitably maximum short term profitability is achieved in homeostasis with bad actors. There is no stopping it, only moving on from it.

The internet of yesteryore is gone. The more people kniw that and the sooner the better off we will be. I don't think it can be fixed without massively punitive laws somehow illegalizing that perverse incentive, perhaps required transparency and minimum standards on dealing with bots / bad actors somehow akin to accounting for finance?

It's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better. I'm sorry guys. It was inevitable because people won't listen until the worst outcome happens and then ask stupidly why nobody prevented it.

Anonymous No. 16079907

>>16079645
Preach brother.

Anonymous No. 16079926

>>16079847
I've been thinking about how it basically becomes an economy
Like Runescape still has legitimate players because its company handles inflation by banning enough bots to make sure prices don't spiral out of control
It's very similar to how (you)'s operate here or upvotes on reddit. They're a currency and can be inflated by bad actors up to a certain level. After it gets too bad those bad influences need to correct. I'm wondering how games do that. They must have some sort of model that tells them how many bots are acceptable. Similarly to here the mods probably must be using some sort of model to value the engagement by bots and real users. Without real users the utility for bots simply disappears. That won't happen naturally because it's a tragedy of the commons scenario. Only a limited number of threads and only a limited number of replies. But figuring that out would be figuring out how an economy works which is basically impossible or at least a very large non linear system.
I guess using AI would be perfect for this.
Create data from the past couple years and structure it based on (You)'s. But that'd require figuring out who the bot posts are and who aren't. You could filter for your own bot posts but not all the bot posting actors.
Perhaps they ignore those then. But if they do, eventually you'd end up with hubris. It'll end with bots talking to bots.
In fact. Maybe that's what's been happening all along.
So this is what'd I'd do
Get all the posts of the last couple of years. Use some sort of linear regression that determines what post gets the maximum engagement (basically older posts are less valuable, longer reply chains are more valuable, so set the value of each direct and indirect (You) to 1). Set up an LLM that creates posts with similar content that have maximum number of (You)'s. Post those posts. Feed the results back to the regression model and see what becomes the best possible post then.

Anonymous No. 16079948

>>16072269
We stop using schizoid and schizophrenic interchangeably.

Anonymous No. 16079969

>>16073132
Are you gay by any chance? Or have any interest in guys? Genuine question.

Anonymous No. 16079989

If I had a decent PC I think I could actually do this.

>Build a scraper that scrapes 4chan posts from /sci/ from its inception to now
>value each with the following function
>(#Number of direct and indirect replies) / age of the post
Extremely simple function but it's not a bad guess I think
>Set up an LLM and train it first on general stuff to create a normal backbone.
>Then optimise for 4chan by training further on all 4chan posts to have specialised backbone for 4chan.
>further training per board.
>Highest valued post becomes input for the LLM and set its task to generate similar posts
That's a little harder to do but not as much as you'd think. It's basically a 4chan chatgpt version.
Now just buy a 4chan pass and build a posting bot that posts the post. And there you've got it. An end to end model to completely destroy any sort of forum. Not just 4chan. Any forum.

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Anonymous No. 16080119

>>16079645
>Mods won't do it because they're compromised.
You sound like the very schizoid you are accusing others of been.

Anonymous No. 16080124

>>16072269
I usually tell them to take their meds. They won't but at least it gets them a little mad.

Anonymous No. 16080154

>>16080042
/sci/?

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